{"id":1150,"date":"2017-10-11T20:54:24","date_gmt":"2017-10-12T04:54:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gothic-charm-school.com\/charm\/?p=1150"},"modified":"2017-10-11T20:56:27","modified_gmt":"2017-10-12T04:56:27","slug":"a-short-post-on-dealing-with-elitist-gother-than-thou-types","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gothic-charm-school.com\/charm\/?p=1150","title":{"rendered":"A Short Post on Dealing with Elitist, Gother-Than-Thou Types"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Despite the Lady of the Manners&#8217; best intentions, a post for September just didn&#8217;t happen, and the Lady of the Manners would like to apologize to you Snarklings for that. Of course, with October being <b>THE<\/b> goth month of celebration, things have been extremely busy around here at the Gothic Charm School lair, so while the Lady of the Manners is working on a new post, have a piece of \u201d\u00a6 bonus content, as it were. &#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Elitists. Gatekeepers. People who say <i>&#8220;You&#8217;re not a REAL goth unless&#8221;<\/i>. The Gother-Than-Thou scourge of our subculture, and a persistent problem that many of you keep running into. So here: A selection of questions and (slightly rewritten) answers, taken from the <a href=\"http:\/\/gothiccharmschool.tumblr.com\">gothiccharmschool tumblr<\/a>,  about how to deal with those types of lowly wretches. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Anonymous asked: What&#8217;s the difference between being a poseur and being new to the gothy culture? Sometimes it feels like the same thing&#8230; =\/<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Honestly? The Lady of the Manners thinks that &#8220;poseur&#8221; is a term thrown around by elitist types who are feeling a teensy bit insecure about their &#8220;coolness\u201d\u009d in comparison to everyone else.<br \/>\nThe only thing that would make the Lady of the Manners even consider using the term &#8220;poseur&#8221; is if someone professed interest or knowledge in something (anything, not just things to do with goth) but were fibbing in order to make themselves feel cooler. If you&#8217;re new to gothy culture, fantastic! Go forth and explore, and be thrilled that you will get to experience it for the first time! Don&#8217;t feel you have to act knowledgable and jaded; if someone mentions something you haven&#8217;t heard of, ask them about it. If they scoff at you or call you a &#8220;poseur&#8221; in response, the problem is with <b>them<\/b>, not you.<\/p>\n<p>(There is no Elder Goth Cabal, and if there <b>was<\/b>, it would be more interested in introducing people to our spooky wonderland, not in being cranky gother-than-thou gatekeepers.)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Anonymous asked: As an eldergoth, what&#8217;s your opinion on the recent topic going around YouTube on whether or not you can be goth or not if you don&#8217;t like the music? There seems to be a mix of &#8220;yes, goth is more than music!&#8221; and &#8220;no, goth is ALL music.&#8221;, and even both &#8220;Maybe, just know the history.&#8221; Have you ever seen something like this in the past when you were a younger goth?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course the Lady of the Manners saw that sort of thing when she was a younger goth. There were people drawing arbitrary lines in the black sand and shouting at each other from both sides: &#8220;You&#8217;re not a real goth if you don&#8217;t know all of the bands and have the limited edition bat-shaped vinyl release of &#8220;Kiss Kiss Bang Bang\u201d\u009d by Specimen!\u201d\u009d vs. &#8220;You&#8217;re not a real goth unless you are constantly clad in fishnets, black lace, and velvet, with your hair sky-high and perfect swirly eyeliner!\u201d\u009d<\/p>\n<p>For the record, both sides are absolutely wrong. The goth subculture is a combination of the music and the fashion, and <b>ALSO<\/b> includes the books, art, and movies that provided the loamy cemetery soil for the modern goth subculture to claw its way out from.<\/p>\n<p>You don&#8217;t have to like all the music. You don&#8217;t have to embrace the every aspect of the fashion. But YES, please know at least a little bit about where the whole thing came from.<br \/>\nFinally, if any elitist gatekeepers try to tell you otherwise, laugh at them and tell them that your Auntie Jilli and the Elder Goth Cabal (which doesn&#8217;t exist) says they&#8217;re wrong. Then ignore them forevermore.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, there are other ways you can deal with elitist gatekeeping types, if you don&#8217;t quite feel like laughing at them: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Anonymous asked: Do you have tips on how to handle with elitist goths?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Ignore them. If they insist on interacting with you, smile coldly at them and practice saying things like, <i>&#8220;That&#8217;s your opinion\u201d\u009d<\/i> and <i>&#8220;How nice for you\u201d\u009d<\/i>, in as disinterested a tone of voice you can manage. Smother your words with as much bored sarcasm as you possibly can manage.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<br \/>\nWith that, the Lady of the Manners is going to throw the (as always, moderated) comments open! How do you Snarklings deal with elitists in our subculture? <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Elitists. Gatekeepers. People who say <i>&#8220;You&#8217;re not a REAL goth unless&#8221;<\/i>. The Gother-Than-Thou scourge of our subculture, and a persistent problem that many of you keep running into. 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