Of Werewolves. Werewolves and Goth.

The Lady of the Manners feels like she needs to state that the question in this edition of Gothic Charm School is one she had never received before. Which isn’t to say it’s bad, or creepy, or unsettling! Just ”¦ this isn’t something that people have asked before. It comes from a young spooky creature:

well two things one I love your book and now two my mom is one of the vampire subculture kind of people but she hides it from the rest of our family she also has accepted I’m Goth but I don’t live with her now I live with my gran and she can be judgmental and will not accept it now comes the fact I dress like a werewolf with the ears tail eyes and teeth most people know of vampires in the gothic subculture just not wolves there a little less understanding and I’m leader of a nonviolent pack but my family will not understand this like this I have them read your book but I just don’t know what to do any more I get asked by strangers and I get one chance to make a good impression for Goths and wolves plez help me answering it without the accidently rudeness is a bit hard

The Lady of the Manners will be honest, it took her a few readings of the message before she was able to understand what was being asked, but not because of any distaste or side-eying of the subject, but purely because of the writing style. Punctuation, Snarklings. Punctuation and writing for clarity; learn about them and embrace them.

The Lady of the Manners is NOT saying this out of some sort of scholarly elitism or writing snobbery! Writing is part of communication, and if you want to make the best possible impression with someone you’ve never met, being able to write in a way that is easily understood is important. Something written with no pauses or breaks between sentences comes across as someone quickly blurting out a bunch of information, without stopping for breath or to see if the person they’re communicating with grasps what they’re trying to say. So! Punctuation. It is everyone’s friend, and being able to write a clearly-understood message is an incredibly valuable skill.

With the small writing lesson digression out of the way: You’re right, Wolfy Snarkling, that people are far more aware of vampires and vampyres in the gothic subcultures. (VampYres with a “y” to indicate the people who are part of that subculture, and are not the same as vampire fiction enthusiasts.) The Lady of the Manners isn’t really sure why more people in the gothic subculture don’t identify with werewolves, for they are, just like vampires, a classic example of someone separate from regular society; a monstrous Other who is feared by the rational world. (The Lady of the Manners once had an interesting discussion with some people about the genre divides that were a relatively accurate predictor of your preferred subculture: goths liked vampires, with their elegant menace tinged with decay, and metalheads preferred werewolves, with their tribal loyalty and explosive, semi-feral nature. But none of that is written in stone anywhere, and there is no one particular supernatural creature someone has to like (or identify with) to feel aligned with goth.)

Because you dress like a werewolf, with the ears, tail, eyes (contact lenses, the Lady of the Manners assumes?), and teeth, you are going to attract attention. Most people don’t come across other folks dressed like that, so when they see you, of course they’re going to ask questions. Here’s the thing you need to remember, Wolfy Snarkling: you don’t have to give them detailed answers if you don’t want to. If someone asks you why you’re wearing those things, simply answer, “because I like them,” or, “because I want to”.

You see, you don’t owe them an explanation! Most people asking about someone’s personal appearance aren’t looking for a lengthy explanation, they just want a soundbite. If they do press you for more information, you could answer them with something about how you identify with the archetype of the werewolf, or how you want to have your exterior represent your sense of self. Or merely smile, say, “It makes me happy”, and go on about your business.

Your wanting to make a good impression for goths and werewolves is an admirable goal. However, many people just won’t understand your devotion to the werewolf subculture, and will assume you have a very active imagination, or are involved in an elaborate game of pretend, or their only frame of reference will be sensationalist shock “news” stories about furries. And, the Lady of the Manners wants to make sure that you understand that almost all of those people will think you’re weird.


Own your weirdness. Are you hurting yourself or anyone else? (The Lady of the Manners assumes not, in light of your “nonviolent pack” comment.) If not, then you’re fine; go forth and be true to your wolfy self! Because that’s the big secret, the one that the Lady of the Manners wants to make sure all you Snarklings know:


Who cares what those other people think? You shouldn’t. Be prepared for people not to get it, to make “joking” or mean-spirited comments, but armor yourself with the knowledge that generally, you don’t need to worry about those people’s opinions. Smile politely (but perhaps not a wide smile that displays your fangs) at them, and then ignore them. This is the key to being a happy eccentric of any sort. Yes, you must live in the world, but make sure that you’re doing it on your own terms, and that you’re being true to yourself.

Now, what about the people whose opinions you do need to pay attention to? Family, teachers, co-workers and employers? For school and work, make sure to follow any explicitly-stated dress codes, and work hard at being brilliant. It is amazing how many eccentricities will be overlooked if the eccentric in question is very, very good at what they do. As for family members: try not to get frustrated by them, but make it very clear that this is who you are, this is how you have decided to approach life, and that you are asking them to respect that. And if they don’t, grit your teeth, do what you can to keep family harmony without causing yourself any emotional harm, and focus on when you will be able to live your life on your own terms.

Finally, since you have a pack (who share your ideas)? Turn to them for support, and make it a pack project to craft a clear, concise explanation of what has drawn you all to the werewolf ways, so when you find people who do want more than a soundbite, you have something ready to say. (For example, when people ask the Lady of the Manners about “this goth thing”, she’s able to give them a short explanation involving being an offshoot of the punk subculture, and finding beauty in dark places, with some easy-to-reference examples such as The Addams Family, Dracula, and Tim Burton movies.)

What say you, Snarklings? Do any of you have helpful words for Wolfy Snarkling?
(Comments, as always, are moderated.)

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12 Responses to Of Werewolves. Werewolves and Goth.

  1. Flame Darkmoon says:

    This post has cleared up a point of worry for me as a teenage Goth. My dad has expressed worries many times about how I’d be successful in the work place. Your statement of adhering to stated dress codes and working hard at being successful has provided a good solution to this issue.Thank you very much.

  2. This made me so happy. I do wonder if this person believes in Otherkin (which I have no negative opinion of, as I consider myself one.) Your answer is very supportive to people like us and very much encourages us to be ourselves, so long as no one is getting hurt. Thank you, so very much.

  3. isabella says:

    miss jillian, the werewolf “trend” so to speak has been on the news! and parents and teachers in this case seem not to be very disturbed.

  4. Wela says:

    Oh, very well said, my Dear. I’m so very happy that you are out here being the resource. How I wish one had been there when I was young and weird.

  5. Jade says:

    I think its important to understand that some people (usually parents and especially grandparents) are not going to understand. They’re going to insist this is a phase and you are “playing pretend”. At some point, you are going to have to stop banging your head against a wall and just let them believe that. Eventually, over time, they WILL come to understand that its not a phase. This might take years. It certainly took my mother until I was in my twenties (a good ten years after I started dressing in a darker fashion) to accept that this was just part of who I am.

    If they stress the idea that you are just “playing pretend” question why that would be a bad thing. Imagination and creativity are important qualities to have, for one. But, also, the reality of our world is not a pleasant one. We live in a time that is not especially great. There’s oppression, racism and sexism seem more prominent than ever. There’s terrorism, shootings on the news every other week, our economy is still not doing tremendously, and lets not get started on the state of politics in our country right now. Escapism is completely natural, especially in teenagers and young adults.

    Now, when discussing your wolfy side with your family, try to highlight the positive things as possible. Pack, for instance, is something that most people (even “normal” people) can relate to. We all want a place where we belong, amongst others that love and support us. Having a pack promotes qualities such as loyalty and the ability to compromise. You could also speak about the sense of freedom and liberation (I am assuming) that you feel from expressing your wolfy nature.

    If all else fails, the years until you are allowed to be on your own and express yourself in any way that you wish might seem like a very long time, but I promise that they will pass quickly and then you can do whatever you like (as long as it is not harming yourself or others).

  6. colliope echo says:

    This person is awesome for even having the courage to go around saying there in a pack I am the only goth at my school and unless I am at home I don’t indulge my goth tendencies as much as I would like mostly because the only people at my school that even dress a little bit goth swear like truck drivers and I don’t wish to be associated with some of them and there rudeness

  7. Victoria Salter says:

    I kind of like werewolves, and still have some compassion for them (I wouldn’t like hurt or kill one, and I wouldn’t ever like to see one being hurt/killed), but I am a vampire person. I would like to know that this person would not hurt any vampire or anyone else unless they really had to (or didn’t think through what they were doing, like when some of the werewolves in the stories kill when in wild form, if you’ll forgive me).
    P.S Ordinary wolves are still one of my favourite animals. At the time of writing, I am wearing a blue, non-fur/man-made (I hope) coat with wolves on it…

  8. Julia OC says:

    I love your advice of answering questions with “Because it makes me happy.” I’m definitely going to start using that from now on!
    I also think the bit about goths loving vampires and metal-heads loving werewolves is so true–at least among my friends.

    For those of you who are young and are worried about how the way you dress will affect getting a job–don’t fret. Many companies or whole industries are very accepting of alternative fashion choices (the publishing industry for example appears to be very accepting of colorfully dyed hair). Indulge and experiment while you are young and still in school (if you dont have a dress code) and when the time comes you can learn how to tone down your look and/or subtly incorporate things into “normal” looking outfits that will help you still feel like you.

    P.S. For anyone who hasn’t read The Gothic Charm School book yet, I highly recommend it. I’ve just written a review of it on my blog: http://www.thegothiclibrary.com/gothic-charm-school-review-book-by-a-fellow-goth-blogger/

  9. Penny Curkendall says:

    I’m a Wolf myself my problem is It seems like I’m the only Wolf at Upstate or the Ny state. I’m just looking for a pack to call my own. I came out not only as a wolf but also as Transgender my parents are so confused and I can see why but, I don’t be believe that I’m the only wolf out there although it may seem like it. I have plenty of experince coming out to people. I am very well loved and cared for but alone it seems. I am not a lone wolf I’m a very social wolf who is just looking for a pack. So if there is anyone around the area of Liverpool Ny please notify me

  10. Penny Curkendall says:

    Im looking for wolf pack in Liverpool Ny, (upstate/Syracuse) I wanna start this wolf pack but my parents aren’t accepting and when i tried to explain to my friends they thought I was weird so if anyone wants to start a pack or has one in please let me know My wolfy side is just growling to get out you can notify me maybe we can set something up if anyone has any ideas on how to get more recruits please let me know at wolfpacksforlife@gmail.com

  11. Jackie Cordova says:

    I thought I was th only one in the gothic sub culture who Idetified with wolves more than vampires, I actually am the same way, I also wear a tail, and I’m still working on getting fangs (never bothered getting them since I used to have braces) but I have been this way for many years. I used to have a pack but now am a lone wolf

  12. Hamad says:

    hi my name is Hamed I’m a 10 year old werewolf I’ve been aware of forever I identified with being aware of my parents don’t discriminate against me for being aware of people are mean to people who are different I mean everyone should be nice to everyone

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